tv Politics Nation With Al Sharpton MSNBC March 17, 2019 2:00pm-3:00pm PDT
follow me on facebook and twitter. and i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politics nation". in evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, as the world waits for president trump to condemn an easily recognizable evil after the tragedy in new zealand, he spent his weekend attacking everything but the actual threat behind it. with a marathon of tweets about the, quote, radical left democrats, the late senator john mccain, hillary clinton, "saturday night live," the paris environmental accord, google, general motors and on cue, the fake news media. and speaking of the media, the president is particularly upset that his saturday night was
ruined because his favorite show, other than this one, justice with judge jeanine pirro was suspended for at least a whole saturday because of the flack the fox news channel received for pirro's islamophobic comments about congresswoman ilhan omar. my guest, more than 48 hours after the racist terror attacks at two new zealand mosques that killed 50 people and wounded dozens more, also missing from the president's twitter feed on the heels of that horror, any mention of radical white supremacist, but leave to a boxed in president trump to take care of message and optics in
the bluntest way possible. he made a rare trip to st. patrick's day church services this morning presumably not to offend his irish or emiss came pailian constituents, while acting chief of staff mick mulvaney went out to do damage control. >> i matter what folks say being are being oh, donald trump said this during the campaign, look at what we've done while we've been here and i don't think anybody can cisay the presidents anti-muslim. you've seen him stand up for religious liberties. the president is not a white supremacist. i'm not sure how many times we have to say that. >> joining me now is cynthia althinese, former prosecutor. sarah longwell, republican strategist and publish he at the bullwark.com. and danielle moody mills, sirius xm radio shohost.
let me go first to you, cynthia, the president has not condemned in any way the notion of the white supremacists, of growing hate groups, white hate groups, hate crimes that is on the rise in this country. he has kind of -- he certainly has condemned the attack, but not what is behind the attack. how do you think this affects again how americans and the world looks at this presidency? >> well, i mean our standing is dropping all over the world. i don't expect him ever to condemn white supremacy because i think his language edmpowers t and encourages it and he is a racist zxenophobic bigot.
if you're waiting for that, you have the wrong president. i know who he is. what concerns me is the republican leadership is doing nothing about it. he attacks john mccain, they do nothing. he talks about charlottesville, they essentially do in charlottesville nothing. here he minimized the white supremacist relationship writings of this guy. they do nothing. take is where the biggest tragedy is because that is where we could actually force him to change and save the soul of our country if the republican leadership would stand up for what is right and what is good in the country. and they do not. >> sarah, what about that, why are the republican leadership many of whom will condemn some of the rise in hate crimes, some of what is going on in terms of
islamophobe, anti-semitism, racism, why aren't the republican leadership coming out publicly saying this president needs to stand up and say something directly to this? >> yeah, they absolutely should. what has become clear is that this president is not capable of moral leadership. we're at a time when you see these attacks, what you see is him saying things like very fine people on both sides. and what we really need to see is moral leadership coming from the senate. but unfortunately, every day what we see are more and more is just these republicans falling in line. these attacks on john mccain most recently these tweets are vile. and you don't even see his close friends like lindsey graham stepping up and condemning them. >> danielle, the fact this president would attack john mccain, who just passed several months ago, and to dig up thisle whole thing on john mccain and
his constant attacks on the democrats, the far left, all of this and can't bring himself to attack at all white supremacists, white supremacy, the growing white nationalism. in fact one time he said himself he is as innationalist. this kind of polarization, the frightening part of it, it mo apologizes the country. and many of us even if there is discord on either side have to have the courage to stand up and we're not even president to say no, we'll stand together no matter what the reaction in our base may be or the reaction of others. that is the real leadership we should be able to expect from a president. >> yeah, we don't have a president right now. we are leaderless and i've said that so many times before. the reality is that this president, he succeeds when we are broken, he succeeds by
ripping this country apart. and the idea that you have this horrible massacre that killed men, women and children, a 3-year-old boy -- >> at prayer. >> their place of worship and couldn't even bring the word to s -- couldn't bring himself to say the word muslim. the only time he says it when followed by ban or terrorism. that is the only time that he acknowledges that muslim exists. we need to say if his base is okay to tolerate this type of behavior, that that is who they are as well. and i think frankly the idea that this massacre happened, that this person put in a manifesto trump's ideology was one of the reasons why he sees his white identity as something that he needs to proektd and we'
protect and we're not calling that out? >> i don't think there has ever been an american president that was in a machine fess toe mani doing this. you say his base, but all of us have to take the risk of doing things that is right. that is real leadership even if you are going to face some disfavor. but the fact that he has not reached out to the muslim community by name or the fact that he's not even said to the muslim leadership american muslims, how egregious this is, is appalling. let me bring in another questio question. the president vetoed the bill that the congress and the senate and the house in this regard did in terms of his emergency executive order on the border and building his wall. the legal question, the legal
threat to that is that are we now going in a zone in america. if the legislative branch rejects a request for fund which is they are the ones that decide, that president can then turn around and say i don't care what the legislative branch says, i'm going to codo it by executive order, this is a little beyond the wall. this is where we're dealing with the branches of government being able to in many ways tilt the balance of powers because he is saying you voted against the budget, you voted against the wall, so i'm just going to veto it and do it anyway. >> that's exactly where we are.
that is why at least 12 republicans had the good sense to go along with the democrats and try to stop him from doing this. but again, we're back at the republican leadership. they know better than this. they have been railing against this changing of the balance of power and the president taking too much power. if obama had done this, they would have all gone crazy. they know better, but they don't seem to have the guts to stand up for him. and for the life of me, i cannot figure out why because they have strongly believed that this national emergencies act is a threat to the balance of power and yet they are letting the president get away with it. and the problem is we voted in these governments. and we get what we deserve. we have to change the government, we have to win the election in 2020. >> is the fear among some of the republicans not just defying him but i'm raising the question,
that they are afraid of being primaried by pro trump people in their states, a lot of senators are up for re-election and for elections in 2020. is the fear that they will incur the wrath of trump voters, i mean why won't they stand up and in this case even have enough votes to override his veto? >> yeah, i mean what you saw that was so amazing in this vote was that thom tillis of north carolina had come out and written an op-ed talking about why he was going to block this action by the president. and he took a very principled stand. and then somebody came out in north carolina and said they were going to primary him because he wasn't standing with the president. so what did he do? he switched his vote. it was incredible. it was incredible to me to see people like cory gardner, people like ben sasse. ben sasse is as constitutional can i have conservative as you can get and
to have them cave on this, it is an excruciating moment. and while it was great that we saw 12 people buck him, the 41 republicans that stood with the president i think that they made a short term bet about their political prospects, but i think in the long term it will come back to haunt them. >> and danielle, we're talking again not just the wall, we're talking about the balances of power in the setup of the federal government has been undermined by this veto and the nature of the way this president is acting. he does not care about the other branch of government. he will have what he wants no matter what. >> he is an authoritarian. and republicans are incredibly short sighted. so what they would never let -- have let obama to, they are all of a sudden writing a blank check to this president. and what i have said time and time again, this will come back to bite them. because when a democrat is in office and they want to declare a necessary national around gun
violence, around climate change, they will have no leg to stand on because their hypocrisy will speak for them. >> all right. i'll hold it right here. thank you cynthia, sarah and danielle. coming up, house speaker nancy pelosi says she is against impeaching president trump because he is, quote, just not worth it. but what do other democrats in congress think? for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. oh no. your new boss seems cool, but she might not be sweatpants cool. not quite ready to face the day? that's why we're here with free hot breakfast. book at hampton.com for our price match guarantee. hampton by hilton.
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the debate over impeaching president trump continues to divide house democrats after speaker nancy pelosi recently told the "washington post" that she was not in favor of trying to oust the president with an election looming and the mueller report slated to drop any day now. that answer good enough for many democrats who now think the report and various congressional probes will be damning enough on their own has some liberal stalwarts calling the speaker's logic politically expedient a ander reand irrelevant because they believe the president's record already qualifies for impeachment. congressman, you have been chair of the cause did you say for a
few months and had to work with all sides here. and in my mind there have been two possible strategies around miss pelosi. one is that she wants to keep the issues out there and if the impeachable offense becomes clear clearer, it is there. and second, if it is not, she has taken it off the table so they can't say the democrats have lost their key smoking gun because mueller's report may not say everything any want to say. that isy thinking. which one is she do something. >> i think her position was strategically appropriate and tugs constitutionally sound. she said the case should be compelling, the evidence should be overwhelming and the public sentiment around impeachment must be bipartisan in nature.
it is constitutionally sound because at the end of the day, you have impeachment, that really is just an indictment that comes out of house of representatives. ultimately the trial takes place in the united states senate. in order to have removal occur with respect to an out of control president and standard in the constitution is 67 votes. that means that democrats ands have to come together which is j i think that the speaker has said evidence should be overwhelming, case compelling, and of course it has to be bipartisan in nature. >> and you said something important. by constitution it has to be 67 votes. and right now the republicans are the majority in the senate. so the votes are not there to convict him if that became the move that the house policed on even on -- pressed on even if the house had the votes in the senate. >> that's correct. and you would hope that if the mueller report does make clear that there was a triangular
relationship between the trump campaign, wikileaks and russian spies to sell out our democracy and artificially place durd at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, that the republicans would act like a separate and co-equal branch of government and not like wholly owned subsidiaries of the trump administration. but that may be too much to ask for. and we know for removal to occur in the senate, at least 20 republican senators would have to vote. so we as house democrats at the moment before the mueller report, before the southern district of new york concludeses its investigation, we'll keep the focus on lowering health care costs, increasing pay for everyday americans with a real infrastructure plan and cleaning up corruption and the mess in washington, d.c. so we can bring our democracy to life. that is what we promised the american people we would do. >> with the rise of hate groups by any number of studies and the rise of hate incidents in this country, and the president not
ever so far anyway addressing white supremacy, white hate groups, even in light of 50 people being massachusetred in zealand and seeing people mowed down while in places of aworshi, pittsburgh, jewish people, charlottesville, people in bible study, i mean it is like no boundaries to this. how do you as the head of the house democratic caucus feel this country has got to deal with getting his arms around a real united way even if it costs a little discomfort that we have to work with people who we may disagree with on other things, but a united way to confront this rise of violence based on homophobia, racism, anti-semitism and anti-immigration? >> we have to confront the raise in hatred, the rise in white
supremacy, the rise in anti-semitism, the rise in islamphobia, the rise in xenophobia and do it not as democrats or republicans or independents, do it as americans. there is really two different visions. we want to bring the country together, folks like donald trump seem to want to tear us apart. we want to move the country forward in a positive direction. it seems at times that donald trump wants to turn back the clock. we want to fight for all americans, not just a handful of the privileged few. and hopefully those around donald trump, some of his more casual supporters, would realize that to have someone in the white house who continues to divide us is reckless and irresponsible and not a good pathway forward for the nation. >> now, i just spoke with our experts about his veto of the house and the senate in this case in terms of their voting
against him having the right to have an emergency action at the border. and he vetoes that which in many ways is saying i don't care what the legislators say, i'm going to have my way. when you look being at hat his is talking about cutting into services like medicare, like snap and putting money in there for the wall. you and your colleagues have the last say on his budget. but doesn't the budget reflect this president's kind of insensitivity to some very needed social services and a social safety net for many americans across party and racial lines? >> that's correct. our economy is built on two foundations, one, a well regulated free market economy with rules and a cop on the beat to police bad corporate behavior
a beingbeing accompanied by a s social safety net. what this president has done with his budget proposal is to secretarybeing accompanied by a social safety net. what this president has done with his budget proposal is to secretary suggest that we should cut approximately $2 billion and balance the budgets on the backs of middle class folks afflicted. and when you combine it with the veto, connected to his fake national emergency, it reveals that this is a wannabee dictator and you have at least 12 republicans in the senate who finally seen the light and agree that had he is crossing constitutional boundaries as it relates to us as a congress having the power of the purse. >> we're out of time, but i must
ask, senator gillibrand noused tod announced today for president, beto o'rourke announced. are you going to say who you want? >> i'm going to see how the process turns out. and let candidates -- >> would joe biden be one of those that you think may be in? >> i think joe biden may get this sooner rather than later. he will be a strong candidate. but there are colleagues of mine from the house of representatives, from the congressional black caucus who are in the race, so i will let it play out and see what reverend al sharpton does. >> right now i'm going to thank you and give a note because you will appreciate this as a member of long standing national action network, and they will gather civil rights activists, stake holders and 2020 candidates to examine the state of civil
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and now for this week's gotcha, dedicated to those that still don't think minorities are treated unfairly by police. a new study of traffic stop data found that black and latino motorists were stopped more often than white drivers regardless of any evidence of wrongdoing. we already knew that inherent
racial bias in policing was a thing, but now we know that it is an indisputable fact. researchers examined public records of nearly 100 million traffic stops conducted from 2011 to 2017 across 21 state pa trillion agencies. and 29 police departments. and here is how police are profiling black and brown drivers. the results found across states white drivers are searched less often but more likely to be found with illegal items. also black drivers are pulled over more during the day than at night when officers have a harder time distinguishing race. and since the legalization of recreational marijuana in colorado and washington state, the number of police searches has gone down. but minorities are still twice as likely to be searched.
so what does all this tell us? that when we fight for justice in cases like walter scott, we do so because we understand that there is an inherent bias that shows up far too often and that police of color and people of color are still facing discrimination. at every stop sign and every red light. i always say we don't want the system to be brought down. we want the system to stand up. we're not against police. we are for good police. but when it comes from within and for that to happen, the sanctity of black lives has to take precedence. so next time you are pulled for driving while white, give
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>> senator kirsten gillibrand of new york making her 2020 presidential campaign official earlier today. she joins a crowded field already in campaign mode. one of them is vermont senator bernie sanders. we learned this week that workers on his campaign voted to unionize becoming what is possibly the first presidential campaign staff in history to organize. they will all be part of bargaining -- of the bargaining process for better pay and benefits. joining me now is congressman connor of california, a top adviser to bernie sanders's presidential run, assigned to be its point person in silicon valley. congressman, what is the significance of the workers
unionize something. >> it is another example of senator sanders leading by example. it is not just rhetoric, he is living the type of policies that he wants to see others adopt. and he is a strong supporter of unions, he is a strong supporter of raising people's wages and treating people with a dignity that they deserve. >> now, the fact that the race is now for democratic nomination has almost expanded seemed like every day, but certainly 14, 15 or more candidates now. how do you think that your candidate senator sanders will distinguish himself whereas in '16 it was he against mrs. clinton which is kind of clearly a progressive against someone who had been an established figure. you have more than sanders that is progressive. you have former vice president
joe biden possibly entering the race. and he is saying he is more progressive than anyone in the race. how do you run a campaign that is not divisive but at the same time distinguishes you? >> refer reverend sharp ton, we point to the record. i would argue 12345senator sand was opposed to the war in iraq, he has votesed against defense budgets. so economic justice, he has talked about wealth inequality, he is for medicare for all, he has fought to raise minimum wage. on racism, he has talked about police brutality, speaking out . so i think his record distinguishes himself. >> and your governor put moratorium on the death penalty
use in california. your reaction. >> well, it makes economic sense and moral accepts. here is the thing. since 1978, there have hihav on people put to death and it cost $4 million. and second, with all the racial bias and the distortion in the justice system, i don't think that as fallible human beings we can be making that determination. so i support the moratorium. i hope the voters in california will make it permanent and vote to abolish the death penalty or that the supreme court of california will find that or the supreme court of the united states. >> and you mentioned stephon clark, unarmed young man killed by police a year ago tomorrow. in fact i'm joining his family there in sacramento as they mark that day and try to enkublcoura
people to do positive things. but how do we deal with the issue of police/citizen relations and deal with a criminal justice system that still does not aggressively deal with when police go over the line in terms of using deadly force? >> reverend, we need a change in the law and perhaps a different standard. i mean as you have spoken out so many times, stephon clark was in his grandmother's backyard. he was unarmed. and there were 20 rounds that were fired into him. and it should give people a sense of the difference between how folks who are white and black look at racial justice. many who are black worry whether their kids out in the streets, out late at night, whether they will face such a consequence. so this is a huge issue for our nation and in my view we have to look beyond just saying
something as a reasonable standard which has been an bhused. for those officers not to be ap need greater accountability. >> and your family was involved in being followers and leaders of the gandhi movement which inspired you. how do you like at the rise of hate crimes and hate groups in this country from the perspective of one who has been involved in human rights and it is in the lineage of who you are as a congressman and person? >> that is kind of you to say. my grand father was my hero, he spent four years in jail during gandhi's independent ce movemen and john lewis told me how dr. king was influenced by gandhi as was he. and james lawson helped bring
some of those teachings. i think what we have to learn is the ultimate forbearance and patience and goodness and patience that people in these movements had. they blufed in the fundamental decency of humanity. they faced evil, but they didn't give into hate orbit bitternesd they kept believing in redemption. no community has suffered more, no community has for given more. and some n. some in some way th conscience of the nation and how we can move to something better. but i see that in lewis and clyburn. they don't give into bitterness. they are also a thinking about how to appeal to the better angels of this country. >> thank you very much for joining us. up next, as mayor of new
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week in new zealand followed by the president's trifling condemnation has taught us anything, it is that hate and bigotry continue to be global problems. as mayor of new orleans, mitch landrieu fought white supremacist over the confederate statues. the statues came down eventually, but the path to their removal was controversial and required landrieu to have a racial epiphany of his own which he details in his latest book. in the shadow of statues. and now he is traveling across the country working around issues of race and community and i'm proud that one of his stops is right here on "politics nation." welcome back, mr. hair. >> nice mayor. >> nice to see you. >> when you look at the documented rise of hate violence in this country and globally,>>.
>> when you look at the documented rise of hate violence in this country and globally, in the man meifesto he refers to o president by name, refers to dylann roof, as one that you went through this awakening and you are a white southern mayor at the time, how do you look at where we are now after what you went through taking statues down in new orleans? >> in the book i talk about actually in the early '90s i served with david duke. he got elected to our legislature. i sat across to him, listened to him, watch his eyes roll back in his head and said this dude is dangerous. and vowed that, you know, if that ever happened to really speak about it. and the only way that you could handle him is to confront him directly to call him out for who he was, not let him hide behind the soft rhetoric, falls equivocations. and here we are and you know this work better than anybody in the country, but hate does not
know geographic boundaries. and you can see white you sue pr supremacy and white nationalism rearing its head but while the had had us nation, he needs to ask himself who did the shooting in charleston, at the synagogue, and not act like what happened in new zealand is not happening in the united states of america. you remember well in the letter from birmingham, dr. king bemoaning the fact that the people he was most ashamed of with were good people of goodwill who said nothing. and on the issue of white nationalism and white supremacy you have to call it out for what it is. we can get into the argument with our friends in the republican party about what policy we think we ought to implement regarding the free market, or regarding the budget. but when it comes to white supremacy and white nationalism, not in america. everyone comes to the table as equals and if you don't nail it
when you raise your head it will get you. it's a shame that the president has engaged in this false equivocation and his unwillingness to speak with the loudest voice in the world about what american values are. >> talking about this president, you just announced that you're not going to run for president in 2020. even though many were encouraging you to do so. why have you chosen not to run and will you be endorsing any of the candidates or a candidate for -- >> well, thanks for the question. first of all, as you know, i'm flattered to even be considered amongst the people. i think the democratic field is diverse. i think it's deep. i think it's wide and really good. they have a lot of folks that are going to fill all the lanes that i could fill. and so i have chosen not to do it at this time. but i do fully intend to use my power as a private citizen to be engaged and to make sure that this president we have now gets turned out. this country needs to be stabilized. we need our dignity returned. the world is laughing at us. we need somebody to stabilize and we need somebody to prepare
us for the future. a lot of candidates are out there. nobody needs to be anointed. i think vice president biden is coming soon. that's going to be a big foot to drop. he'll rise to the front right away i think. who knows, maybe some other folks out there. but you know this better than i do. this is not really a horse race. this is a roller derby or a rugby match. and little guys can knock big guys and big gals out. by the way the women are performing so well. i think the democrats shouldn't mess around, i think they should have a very robust primary. they ought to get after it. we ought to try to listen really closely to what the american people want. what they need. and then more importantly, not just vote with our hearts but vote with your head too. you could be tough but you better be smart and don't just tell me what you're going to do. tell me how you're going to do it. who's a going to pay for it. what's it going to look like when we finish, who is going to get it done. what is it going to cost so we can move ourselves into a thoughtful place for all of
america, not just the democratic party. >> can the democrats win the south, penetrate some of the hard red states in the south, when we look at what stacey abrams did and i think that if there had been not some interference she would have won that election. andrew gillum did. can the democrats win the south? >> well -- >> you have been in louisiana -- >> i was lieutenant governor elected twice. the state went bright red and abrams is a spectacular talent as is andrew gillum. both of those folks got unbelievably close and they ran wonderful elections so i think florida is in play. i think georgia could be in play. i think mississippi and alabama are a little bit tough and louisiana. however, it depends on who the candidate is, who the running mate is. i happen to think america is going to be really tired of president trump by the time this thing rolls around. we kind of thought we knew who
he was. now we know we know who he is. so this election isn't about him but what we are, what we want. almost everybody on our side is better than him. and the country needs to kind of get ready to start preparing itself for the future. he's not the future, he's the past. he said so himself because he wants to make america quote calmer again. if you're in the south you know what that calmer again. our friends are saying i'm not going back. i want to go to the future. i think the democrats are the party of the future. >> thank you, mitch landrieu. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. h us h us naysayer said no one would subscribe to a car the way they subscribe to movies. we don't follow the naysayers. ♪ ♪
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there's too much inequality. i will also address this rise of hate and i challenge you in your workplace, in your family, in your social circles, don't be silent. in fact, speak about this rise of hate. even if it is not your particular race, nationality or sexual orientation that is the victim. this afternoon i joined rabbis and imams as they stood where a swastika had been drawn in new york. we also condemned the massacre in new zealand. because until you can fight wrong and injustice for everyone, you can't fight it for anyone whether it's lgbtq, whether it's jews, blacks, immigrants. we cannot cosign hate with our silence. somebody we'll be cheered. sometimes jeered.
but nothing excuses our silence. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. until then keep the conversation going. like us @facebook.com/politics nation. follow us on twitter. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. this sunday on the campaign trail -- beto o'rourke makes it official, he is running. >> i am running to serve you as the next president of the united states. >> he draws throngs of voters, lots of supporters and few specifics. >> if you have all of the answers, why show up? >> but in iowa, the texas democrat told me what sets him apart. >> there's one candidate that can talk about the profoundly positive impact that immigrants have had on our safety and security. and my one-on-one with senator amy klobuchar on her campaign. >> i wasn't born to run. but